- What my initial reaction/experience was towards self forgiveness:
My initial reaction was yes that’ll sort out the stuf that is inside me ‘that is not me’. I had seen long ago that I had allowed and accepted things in world as within myself, that I fell in my mind in the same situations over and over again, but I did not have the tool to change / to get it out (of my mind). Here it was presented by the Desteni group. So this struck me instantly as the answer to free myself / my body from the mind.
- What it was within myself that made me decide to walk/apply self forgiveness:
I knew from my teens that thoughts were only perceptions so that I don’t need them to be able to live and that the self-images were only a burden that has to stop. I actually started applying self forgiveness immediately from the self forgiveness lists on both the english Desteni website as well as the dutch Desteni website. I wanted to be able to walk anywhere on Earth and not be restricted by myself. I had myself retracted within my home studying and needed Self-Forgiveness to Stop the Abdication of Self-Responsibility as Life.
- How self forgiveness has assisted/supported me within my process (specific transcendences here I walked-through with self forgiveness):
The specific transcendences I was able to walk through were the releases of the pains I experienced within my physical. Within fours months I could function more adequate with my body within my daily tasks. Later on I was able to stand in the communication with my family.
- Why I would recommend the application of self forgiveness to others:
I would surely recommend this to anyone because this is the only way to free oneself from the preprogrammed mind consciousness – to not repeat oneself time after time. I heard myself saying the same stuff and if you like to change then this is one of the tools.
- How I have changed through self forgiveness
I have changed from the perspective of realising when to speak and when not to speak. I have the tendency to withhold myself and getting angry with myself for not speaking up. (Still do — so that’s my self program which I can stop through SF).
- Why such change only can be walked with the support/assistance and application of self forgiveness.
Indeed such a change can only be walked within the deed of SF because I otherwise would continue living on the automated behaviour I have become – as a mere copy of my parents. The program is that persistent that I only can come out of it through living self forgiveness.
Mind = thoughts, feelings and emotions
Within thoughts, feelings and emotions we are actually busy charging the unconscious mind and everything that exist in this world: poverty, rape, murder, the government system, military, etc..
Dairy – As I am walking the process of walking out of the mind into the physical – I am at the stage that I can bring my awareness of breath quite effectively back to self. Within the last year and a half where I started working in the matrix in a job with hundreds / thousands of people – this was quite a challenge I liked to make. Where I was still reacting (inside my mind or outside) to peoples comments / remarks – I found myself today to be able to stay in breath or to be able to bring myself back to myself in breath awareness.

All within the self realisation that what I may think / thoughts of people – I am because all is one and equal. I breathe. I will do what is best for all. The Solution of Life.
I do not allow myself to act within self interest.
The same here in the house with the male being I am living with. Although I said to him when I was projecting my mindshit unto him that I am DOING that – I could not stop myself, because it was not silent in me. Yesterday after I completed DIP lesson 6 I got some pointers from Maite from Desteni which was just to the point I needed to ‘hear’ (here:). I was clouded /blurred by the assumption that I had to get going some sort of a communication with him as myself. So – the word ‘had to’ here reveals to me I had this overlaid myself and that he reflected back to me my own thoughts / emotions – within his physical / emotional body movements that I was not self effective breathing in anuway what so ever – yet I could not put my finger on my emotional reactions. Till yesterday! I had judged his /my fear and anger. Till here and no further - I do not allow and accept myself to experience emotional turmoil within me and project myself unto another being as these thoughts and emotion are harmful to us as the whole of humanity. I am not my thoughts and emotions!
Therefore I see a remarkeble change within myself.
Clearing the mind through self forgiveness within self honesty and living self corrective statements to be able to learn to see the physical reality – the only reality that is real – no more clouded by / with the deceptive mind.
No mind is real.
When I was watching television earlier on this evening I heard the phrase “not all there” in correlation to someone not having it all there ”in the head” - which would refer to one is not normal / sane. Like it is saying that if one has it “all there” “in the head” one is okay / good. Then one is functioning fine according to the world / money system - conform the belief of being right or wrong / being all there or being not all there – making money of being all there is good / god. When we take into consideration that we are all equal – what then are these words really indicating?
Quite the opposite – being all here is being all sane. We don’t need anything mulling in the head to live here as all what is here – that’s common sense, to stop the preprogrammed circular thinking.
Nothing going on up there in the head anymore – being aware of breath. Bringing all here, because what is in the mind as the head is not real – thoughts are not normal, delusions / lies / separations.
Yes nothing is what it seems and all is in reverse.
We have never been here completely – see Desteni tools to get self here, to stop the mind and to birth self as breath in and as the Physical.
BEING ALL THERE – in the mind - IS LUNACY
BE HERE AS BREATH OF LIFE – when we all will be here, we will be free.
Example of a technique
Video of a fellow custodian of the universe
I myself apply yoga as a technique bringing myself back to myself within and as breath.
The design of Common Sense as the Reptilian Logic, where the older generation passes down their program of “right and wrong”, “good and bad” to younger generations – to perpetuate a system that values competition, capitalism, and money above all. We can see the Youth are now revolting against these archaic traditions – but this must be Self-Directed, with the Common Sense that What is Best for All IS what is Best for Each.
The trap of the mind set / placed by Anu, Marduk, Enlil and Enki is gen-i-us. I remember from when I was very young people speaking the words “use your mind / common sense”. What / whose common sense? I found this to be soo limited, “off-key*”- never knew why (till Desteni) - that I became very anxious to any interpretation of the common sense as the mind cause it did stir up all and everything - never including the rest / all being as a matter of fact. It was always about serving others views/ fears / feelings / projections. I let it go though to a large extent because through my programming from my Mother Matrix I ”allowed and accepted” people “whatever they think”. I forgive myself that I haven’t allowed and accepted myself to realise to what extent thoughts, feelings and emotions have caused this rotten status we as the world have become. Later on (yes we repeat each first seven years cylce of life) as I met my ex there were – again (yes to do with ‘a gain’ / game = winning) wtf – a lot of older people minding us with horrible thinking / Reptilian Logic. Rubbing shit into others about being born in the mind — whooah – J. indicated the physical. Again I did not stand up and stopped myself and others stating till here and no further with the illusion of the mind.
I’ve said aloud or thought in my mind a zillion times “I know that logic for 350 billion years” – (I) tell something I don’t know – fuck off with the old knowledge and information, it’s stupid as hell.
This time with and as my ex’s famiLIES I became perplexed / denied myself to the extent I drugged / suppressed myself completely with whatever available substances, ways and means which I bear for about seven years till the scream inside became so loud I had to fight myself out of all I had myself gotten into. This was in 2004 and it is a long road out of the mind and since I stumbled upon Desteni this realising / revealing what I as all have allowed and accepted within our world and ourselves. Through reading the Desteni articles and participants blogs I came to realise that the gross of people do no want / can not face reality and want to live here-after / in heavens / bliss and such and that as result has this current state of the world. I liked just the plain, simple being here. From there comes my question along long time ago where / what is everyone busy with? What a fuck. Gross errors of indecency. We have to take responsiblity for all that exist for being able to change from here.
So – yesterday evening when I was walking with my ex I realised I want to END this reacting of mine / mind towards dumn logic. I explained to him as myself that those feelings of astonishments we were experiencing to stop in the awareness of realising all having been created as an illusion. No other way we will be able to free ourselves from the stupid mind.
To gain vs to loose. What was I afraid of to loose? Because in essence I can not loose anything – I always realised that because I am here. Self is infinite. So – I was afraid of my own fear of loosing myself as breath here in every moment of presence. The ego / mind is afraid of dying. I wasn’t sure what is infinite in fact. Matter is infinite and immortal – the mind is mortal and never infinite, it ends at death and become a mere relfection of energy.

I realise I am dumb – silly is my name
I had the agreement with myself to not give vent to other people as this what had happened to me. I was about seven that I realised that I want(ed) to stop all of this ‘original sin’ (Structural Resonance). So – I vented off within my human physical body, in other words my mind downloaded all this shit information into my physical mind as pain – extreme pain - to remind me what I had been allowing and accepting all lives.
I forgive myself that I haven’t allowed and accepted myself to see / realise / understand that the mind is a created trap by Anu and his friends to enslave / control us people within our confined existence as consciousness as fear.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to have become anxious of people abusing others as self within the common sense as the mind as the reptilian short-sighted logic.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to become very aggitated whenever someone “speaks” with, of and as common sense as the reptilian logic.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to have become very angry with the common sense as the reptilian logic.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to get disgusted with the reptilian logic of and as as limitedness and therefore I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to having disgusted myself within and as limitedness.
I forgive myself that I haven’t allowed and accepted myself to realise that within reacting emotionally I fell into the same trap of the mind as hell.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to not let go of the thought / memory of people using the common sense as the mind as the reptilian logic.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to walk right into the trap of the mind with my eyes open through becoming vile with the numb logic.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to enter my mind within reacting to and whenever others exhumed their reptilian logic.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to react with and as anger whenever other people reacted with and as their spite / reptilian logic.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to behave myself in a way so people would have a reaction within dislike.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to spite myself within people for they spited me.
I forgive myself that I haven’t allowed and accepted myself to see / realise / understand that this is exactly how Anu and his friends preprogrammed human beings to keep them occupied within and as mind consciousness systems within reacting towards eachother in reptilian logic.
I forgive myself that I haven’t allowed and accepted myself to equalstand the reptile within myself.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear reptiles.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to fear the snaking of reptiles.
I forgive myself that I haven’t allowed and accepted myself to realise / see / understand that twisting, quarreling, debating are characteristics of reptiles / the reptilian logic as created by Anu and co to enslave us to the mind consciousness.
I forgive myself that I have allowed and accepted myself to withstand dispute, argue, debate, wrangle and snaking.
Whenever I see myself trap myself within my self-created fear as consciousness – I stop, I breath – I do not allow and accept myself to trap myself within my self-created fear as consciousness, because I realise fear is a preprogrammed reaction. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I see myself becoming angry with the common sense as the reptilian logic – I stop, I breath – I do not allow and accept myself to become angry with the common sense as the reptilian logic. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I see myself entering my mind as a reaction to others entering their minds – I stop, I breath – I do not accept and allow myself to enter my mind as a reaction to others entering their reptilian logic. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I see myself getting disgusted with reptilian logic – I stop, I breath – I do not allow and accept myself to get disgusted with reptilian logic, because I realise that I am actually digusting myself. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I realise that the mind is a created trap by Anu and his friends to enslave / control us people within our confined existence as consciousness as fear – I stop, I breath – I do not allow and accept myself to step into the trap by Anu and his friends to enslave / control us people within our confined existence as consciousness as fear. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I see myself becoming anxious with and of people abusing others as self within the common sense as the mind as the reptilian short-sighted logic – I stop, I breath – I do not accept and allow myself to become anxious with and of people abusing others as self within the common sense as the mind as the reptilian short-sighted logic, because I realisee that I am actually abusing myself. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I see myself becoming very aggitated when someone “speaks” with, of and as common sense as the reptilian logic – I stop, I breath – I do allow and accept myself to get aggitated when someone “speaks” with, of and as the common sense as the reptilian logic. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I realise that I become angry with the common sense as the reptilian logic – I stop, I breath – I do not accept and allow myself to become angry with the common sense as the reptilian logic, because I realise that it is a program. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I realise that I get disgusted with the reptilian logic of and limitedness and therefore digusting and limiting myself – I stop, I breath – I do not accept and allow myself to get disgusted with the reptilian logic of and as limitedness and therefore disgusting and limiting myself. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
Whenever I realise that within reacting emotionally I fall into the same trap of the mind as well – I stop, I breath – I do not accept and allow myself to react emotionally and fall into the same trap of the mind as well, because I realise that I am actually falling in the emotional trap myself. Instead – I face my current reality and take responsibility for whatever it is that is bothering me.
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Common sense what is best for all life is Equal Money for All
* Self-Honesty as one as equal as all is the Key to total Freedom for everyone.
The mind is a system. And experiences are as mind delusions. I do not need to have a ‘click’ with someone - needing a click is extremely limiting self as all as one as equal.
I’ll write here about specific experiences / preprogrammed living real-i-TIES I had within ‘clicking’ with others as myself – ‘clicking’ and locking myself into my mind consciousness system. ‘Clicking’ translates in dutch as ‘betraying’; betraying exist allways as betraying self.
This occurence was round-about 1996 when I was just about twentynine. In the year prior I had ‘made the decision’ to quit the retail job I worked, underrent my room and finish my studies to relocate to Australia for a year’s minimum – going into permaculture as a trainee in the willing worker on organic farms busyness. It was not so much of a decision (I realised slighlty that we are not able to ‘think ‘life) – it was more that I was stuck within my then current experience within myself as the system - getting bored of the perpetual life in the city, not knowing what to do in the system / ’in life’.
At the same time I was altering my appearence from colourful to black with holes outfit, to be able to enter some new subcultures – I therefore walked into myself as the conscious within wrting the subconscious to and as an other personality – I had this sudden urge infused to go explore the seamy side of society / of myself. I enjoyed myself a lot as this new born identity, because I had been such a slave within the mind as the system this was an experience ‘beyond belief’ – there had to be much more it this reality as we experience it. Still questioning the background i came from – mind / christianity. Opinions were ‘not of the sky’ (dutch ‘niet van de lucht’) though which I did not completely realise that they were projections of fear / self dishonesty onto me / us and are selfabusive as such. Accumulating all as my self dishonesty. What was also in my program was “to let people talk / think what they want, for they don’t know better.” Huge consequence for me as all here on earth through accepting and allowing inequalities to evolve.

So – then I encountered this male human being five months before my departure. I was not gonna let myself astray within a relationship again – I said to myself, because I had not been in a ‘relationship’ for five years then which was just fine with me. What happened anuway was that I had it within my mind that he would be the perfect ticket for me to lead me into the black dimensions as a safe guard – still sure I had to take the Jesus’ way descending to the lepers, hookers and vagabonds. Cause the ‘good stuff’ was not was it seemed – but I was no way to say this. There – one evening he came to my student home accompanied by his mother and the moment they entered my room I was aware of this ‘clicking’ – on the left hand side of my skull I connected with him and at the right hand side my mind connected with her (the two occipital bones at each side for interdimensional access). “Fuck I am stuck” (“stront aan de knikker”) – within my mind I knew immediately. [Reading the Desteni material made me sure as to what happened really]
After that I can be short, because also in Australia I could of course not let go anumore of the program that was my preprogrammed self. ‘Course’ as path, track. ‘Down under’ was not the place to be for me, due to fears for men (father) and being unsure if other peoples thinking entailed value – therein subdueing /suppressing my true self value as equal and one as all. Now I am sure (thanks to Desteni) that people’s thinking as thoughts, feelings and emotions do NOT entail value – the exact opposite in fact: it’s separation – the cause we are in this mess on earth. Stop separating from eachother as equality and oneness as who we really are!
I stop here for the moment…
Releasing self from memories as they are preprogrammed mind consciousness components / existences - to be able to stand up from the grave of memories collected within and as the physical mind …
…through breathing Self Honesty, Self Forgiveness and Self corrective statements.











